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Thank you so much for playing Emberfate!! I'm really happy to hear that you enjoyed it! <3

Jim has definitely become a fan favorite, so you're not alone LOL He's one of my favorite side characters too because of how adorable he is and how fun he is to write!

Again, thank you for playing Emberfate, and I hope I'll see you again later this year for Potato's DLC too! ;D

Finished the last day!! I have nothing new to add to my previous comment, I just love love love this game. At the end I actually got a little misty eyed because I loved the guild so much! Everyone feels so wonderfully real and endearing. I'm going to be replaying emberfate a number of times in the coming weeks!

Thank you so much for playing Emberfate! It makes me so happy to hear you like the game <3 I hope you'll enjoy your other playthroughs as well!!

PS: Emberfate will be releasing on Steam soon with some achievements, so you might want to wait on the Steam version before doing more playthroughs if you care about being a completionist and getting all the achievements on Steam! Haha

Hello! I downloaded the game today after a recommendation, and honestly I love it! Its very well made, and the characters are so well written! The guild succeeding stresses me out though XD

I'm having a problem though, I'm on Day 8, Chris Route, I go to start the raid, and the moment I invite Nathan and greet him, after his next words the game just errors, and rollback just forces me into an endless loop of the error.

My raid team needed Zuros alt, a random and the underleveled anon to be complete, if this information helps. I believe the error is caused by the random though

My error message is quite long, but I can share it if needed

Hi! Thank you so much for playing Emberfate, and I'm so glad to hear you've been enjoying it! 

Oops, I have no idea how that bug slipped through the cracks. I'm so sorry about that! I think I know what the issue is after checking the code, but having a screenshot of the error would be really helpful to make sure I'm fixing the right thing. Thank you again, and I'm sorry about the inconvenience and issues!

No worries haha! I'll definitely sit through some errors if  it means I get to play awesome games like this one!

These are the errors

Thank you so much! I believe I've figured out the issue and it should work properly now. I've just updated the build on Itch.io to v1.0.1, so please redownload the game files and try playing again!

You might have to go back to the start of Day 8 (by loading a save file from Day 7, or loading a Day 8 save file with Force Recovery Mode enabled) for the fixes to take effect.

Please let me know if it works! Thank you again!

mmorpgs always have a special soft spot in my heart. i've only played Day3's content which was months ago, and i remember being so giddy lmao wow
So glad to see the updates! i cant wait to play when i'm free

Thank you so much for leaving such a nice comment! I'm happy to announce that the final episode (Day 8) has been released, so I hope you'll enjoy the rest of the game if you do play it! :D

sooo i had to start the game from the beginning bc one of my save files wasn't working but i'm not able to skip through the chats and dialogues for some reason? had to play it all over again on maximum speed bc the skip option wouldn't work

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Hi! Thank you for playing Emberfate! I'm sorry to hear about the issues — unfortunately I'm not able to replicate the problem you said you were experiencing. Persistent data like what lines have been already read before should be saved locally on your machine — can you check the following folder locations to see if there were mistakenly multiple save folders for the game such as EmberfateTempestofElementsPublic-1631333206 or EmberfateTempestofElements-1631333206? 

  • Windows: %AppData\Roaming\RenPy\
  • Mac: $HOME/Library/RenPy/
  • Linux: $HOME/.renpy/

Either way, there should be a setting in game to let you skip through all text, whether read or not, so you can toggle it on to All Text to skip through everything faster even if the local persistent data on what lines have been read was somehow bugged or lost. Please let me know if that works for you, and again, I'm sorry about the inconvenience and issues! This game kind of has a lot going on programming-wise for the chat system to work, and unfortunately, thanks to my lack of expertise with coding, I'm unable to fix all the backwards compatibility issues that occurs with the engine. Thank you very much for your patience!

hi,  i try the solution but i continue with the problem.

hey there, i'm on day 5 of chris' route, and i'm currently stuck!! SPOILERS for day 5 chris route:


after sending mails to verify zeke's story, nothing else has happened? the hint hasn't changed from "send mails to verify zeke's story" so i'm wondering if i've missed something. i'm on mac, so maybe that's part of the issue! thank you! 

Hi! Thank you for the bug report! 

I've located the issue and updated the game build on Itch.io (v0.6.3) that should include a fix to the issue. You might have to reload at the start of Day 5 for the fixes to apply as any save files made after starting Zeke's conversation would likely have the old bugged progress condition set incorrectly still. Please let me know if the issue persists after that!

Apologies for the inconvenience and issues! Thank you for playing Emberfate!

I am OBSESSED with this game so far. It's soooo damn good! I love the idea and everything about it <3

Thank you so much for playing Emberfate! I'm so happy to hear that you enjoyed the game so much. <3 Positive comments like this make me really happy so thank you for taking the time to leave a nice review!!

You're welcome!! I think you should be so proud, im so in love with all the characters and the story as a whole. There are so many little details that make this simulator seem so real!! ❤️

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hi! i fell in love with your game so much! and wow love how you can make everyone has a story of their own even though they are just side character! i adore all of the LIs, lamp! lamp and jim! so precious so cute!! i love them all ! thank you for making this game!! on a side note tho i already played chris and nathan routes but when i played khanyisa on day 4 when i picked up her call it show me this? thank you again btw!! 

Hi! Thank you for playing Emberfate! I'm really glad to hear you enjoyed the game :D 

Oops, I'm not sure how that bug slipped through the cracks all this time, but I have just updated the game build on Itch.io that should include a fix to the bug. Sorry about that issue, and thank you for the report!

hi, yes i have the same glich.

Ween I want continue with mein Partide of day 6, in the screen jump te message Error, I tried with force recovery mode but i continue with the same problem.

I use the last vertion

I just updated the game build which should fix this issue again! Apologies for the inconvenience, and thank you for playing Emberfate!

I'm curious, so it states that Chris uses He/him or They/Them pronouns, does this mean that there's some sort of setting to switch their pronouns? I do prefer men but generally have no qualms romancing someone who uses they/them pronouns. I'm simply just curious because I would have no idea how to switch pronouns.

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It just interchanges between them I'm pretty sure! 

I'm not 100% sure that's true.  I think the pronouns would be set to They/He, etc. I haven't seen the pronouns interchange once, but thank you for answering.

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Hi! Thank you for playing Emberfate and your question. 

To answer your question: Chris' pronouns is not an option for the player to choose from, and there's no setting for you to toggle between referring to them as he/him or they/them. I've gone back to double check the script to confirm, and the narrative does use the two pronouns interchangeably, but they/them was probably used a bit more frequently!

Im just on day 2 and Im loving the characters they all have such unique personalities. Im so glad I found this game! Looking forward to the future of this game!!

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Hi! Thank you for playing Emberfate! I'm glad to hear that you enjoyed it and liked the characters! :) The final episode (Day 8) for this game should be released for the public in early Jan, while Patrons will get it later this month, so hopefully that isn't too long of a wait! Haha. I hope you enjoyed the rest of your playthrough!

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Hey! I'm having a little issue here. In day 6, I ignored Solitude's PM.. then I PANICKED I WAS LIKE NOOOO NOW I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEY WANT TO SAY TO ME AM I IN TROUBLE so I loaded a savee I made right before their PM came in. But uhm, idk how to explain it really but it's like the chat from day 6 was there working as usual but the rest of the things on screen were from day 3 (i think??). Seconds later I got an error and had to close the game. Not sure if this happened to anyone else or if it's just me but I decided to put it here anyways just in case.

Same problem!

Hi! Thank you for playing Emberfate! I'm sorry to hear you're encountering technical issues with the game. Admittedly that's... a really strange bug, and I've not been able to replicate it on my end while attempting to repeat the steps you mentioned.

You mentioned there was an error that popped up and you had to close the game -- would you happen to have a screenshot of the error message or remember what it said roughly? Additionally, if you still have that bugged save file, would it be possible to send the save file to me directly in private so I can test it personally and try to figure out the issue? I'm available on Discord at Windchimes#1995 if you'd like to send me the screenshot / save file in DMs (or need further directions on how to find the save file on your PC for sending)!

Again, really sorry about the inconvenience and issues. I'll try my best to investigate and fix the issue as soon as possible.

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Thank you for the report! I think this bug is a different issue from the one mentioned by OP though, as it's not a bug triggered by loading an old save. It was also reported on Tumblr yesterday and I've already uploaded an updated version of the game that should include a fix to the bug. Please update your game files to the newest version and try and see if the issue remains. Thank you!

Everything is working good, thank you!

I deleted all my saves from the previous days and started all over again. Everything works like normal now!! It might have been a problem with my save files from the previous updates? idk..

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Hmmm yeah that's really strange, I have no clue why that happened. But I'm glad to hear it works fine now, though I'm sorry that you had to start from scratch and spend time replaying 😭 Sorry about the issues, and I hope you enjoy the rest of the game!

dw about it!! Emberfate is on my Favorites list, replaying it isn't a problem and I will probably do it a lot more in the future. <3

Hi ! I dowloaded the first demo some times ago and everything worked well but with the new demo I have a really hard time to succeed clicking on the answers. And on the game menu. Is anyone having the same problems and then the solution ? It's the mac version.

Hi! Unfortunately, I'm unable to replicate your issue even after trying it on a Macbook. The code for the chat system and the game menu buttons wasn't really changed either between the original game jam demo and these newer version updates, so theoretically it shouldn't have broken anything.

I'm unsure what could be causing the issue, so all I can suggest at this point is potentially try a fresh clean install of the game to see if it fixes the issue.

Delete all previous downloaded builds of Emberfate,  then navigate to this location on your computer: $HOME/Library/RenPy/

If you see any folders called EmberfateTempestofElements, whether it's EmberfateTempestofElementsPublic-1631333206 or EmberfateTempestofElementsDemo-1631333206, delete all the contents inside those Emberfate folders.

Then redownload the game and extract to a fresh new folder again.

Sorry about the strange issue, but thank you for your interest in Emberfate!

I'm so happy I found this gem! >w<  It was fun, and the characters felt so real. I'll DEFINITELY look forward to the next update!

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Ahhh thank you so much for playing Emberfate!! I'm so happy to hear you liked it. Next update should be at the start of next month, so it's not too far away! Haha

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Trying out the new update because I am excited and love this game so far- but I have 0 of my saves and I assume it's a bug? Please help 

Hi! Thank you for playing Emberfate. It looks like the 0.4.2 build had an error pointing to the wrong save directory on the computer -- please download the newest 0.4.3 build to see if the issue has been fixed.

Otherwise, you should be able to find your previous saves manually in:

  • Windows: %AppData\Roaming\RenPy\EmberfateTempestofElementsPublic-1631333206
  • Mac: $HOME/Library/RenPy/EmberfateTempestofElementsPublic-1631333206
  • Linux: $HOME/.renpy/EmberfateTempestofElementsPublic-1631333206

You can then copy the saves over to the "saves" subfolder in the unzipped game folder. Then relaunch the game. The old saves should appear on the list again.

I apologize for the issues. Thank you for your patience!

Thanks for the answer.

Before seeing it I tested the last demo and it works perfectly. Maybe it was a specific problem in the old file which was corrected with the new file ? 

I don't know but it works and I have to say the game is amazing !

It really brings back memories of mmorpg and guilds problems ah, ah, ah.

On the game "game" part I always forget the mp with the potions before the first raid. Every time... Oups...

Anyway, I'll try to follow the steps of the resolution you described if I have a new problem with a future update. Thanks again !!!!!

I'm sorry, I posted it under the wrong reply... 

Hello! I don't know if i'm doing something wrong but on day 4 when I finish the chat with DoNotDisturb about Kumiko chan and after that finish up with the guild and realm chats, the game just kinda,,, stops. So I don't know what to do because in the hints section it says handle any PMs received and complete the convos in any private messages received, but I have already done that? So the game just ends there. I also replayed the whole game again and it yet again just freezes at the same spot.

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Hi! Sorry to hear about the issues -- I admit this is the first time I've received a report of that bug, so I'm not sure exactly what's causing it. If possible, please provide more information on the issue -- screenshots of the spot where it stops, as well as the guild & realm chat and private messages window at that point, would be appreciated! If possible, please also let me know what your previous decisions / choices were for (a) whether you or Ali would be doing the recruitment (b) how you responded to HermitCrab's application to join (c) how you responded to Sorcerer's chat about his brother wanting to join.

EDIT: I just uploaded a new build of the game to Itch.io with an attempt to fix the issue. Please update the game and load a Day 4 save file with Force Recovery Mode on (which should put you at the start of Day 4) and try to get back to the point where the game stops and see if you're still unable to progress. Please let me know if the problem persists!

For more detailed support / troubleshooting, please consider joining our Discord server and private messaging me directly! It'd be easier to be able to identify what's causing the problem that way. 

Thank you for playing Emberfate, and I'm very sorry for the unexpected bugs!

Thank you! I downloaded the new build and now eveything is fine. :)

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Okay so I loaded my previous file just fine, and hung out with Chris (I saved it at the route branch off) and everything was fine until after the hang-out was done.  It gives me a hint to finish all chats and I did, I've tried loading and reloading saves but nothing changes- Also I don't get the option to say no to Khnayisa and after I select Chris route the one option I got dissapears. I am really confused and have no idea what i'm doing :,)

Edit: Okay I fixed it!! I needed the force loading aaa- Nathan was just fine so I didn't think anything was wrong but I guess not

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Please try reloading the save file with Force Recovery Mode enabled, which would bring you back to the start of Day 3 chapter. You'd have to replay the portions from start of Day 3 leading up to the route branch, but I'm fairly certain that it should fix the problem you're having which is due to incompatibility of old saves. The save point you made for the save file is after where I added new code to fix an issue where players are softblocked from progression by saying No to every single love interest, which affects how the No option is displayed during the route branching for the last love interest to respond to. 

Please let me know after trying that to see if it works. I apologize for the issues. Thank you for playing Emberfate!

I have an inquiry about picking a romance option on day 3, see i am able to pick either Khanyisa or Chris as a route, but Nathan is unavailable to me for some reason. I'm simply wondering if there are choices in game that determine this, or if his route is supposed to be an option no matter what and this is unintentional?

Whether a romance option is available for you to choose their route on Day 3 depends on your previous choices while interacting with the character in Day 1 and 2. The threshold requirement you need to meet in terms of relationship points with the love interest before their route is available in Day 3 is the same for all three love interests, but difficulty in getting that may vary. Thank you for playing Emberfate!

ah i see, thank you for answering!

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I had to make an account after being a silent lurker because daaamn this is good! 

i love love love all the choices we can make, the interface is super cool and realistic (it must have been a lot of work to design it and make it work!), and everyone seems  so... real :) 

all the characters have their own personalities (including some that irk me, i'm looking at you Zeke) and they feel really fleshed-out. a lot of them have my heart and affection besides the romance options (Names, Type, Uncle, Ruby, Cat, Lamp, Ali, Muse and Jim just to name a few <3 absolute sweethears love them)

I can't wait to see more of this (and Chris. love Chris.)! good luck and best wishes to the devs, you're doing an amazing work <3

Thank you so much for playing Emberfate and leaving such a glowing review!! I'm so glad to hear the game offers a realistic experience since that's definitely my first goal — and even the annoying characters can actually evoke annoyance LOL

The newest episode for Day 4 content is out now if you want to continue your journey (and romance Chris some more! ;) haha) Thank you so much again for the kind comment! It really does warm my heart knowing my creations can entertain players :D

Does anyone have the issue that they can't click anything? When I get the first prompt to select a dialogue option, nothing happens. :/ I tried restarting and redownloading too.

Thanks for checking out the game! I'm sorry to hear you're having problems playing. Unfortunately, I'm unable to replicate the error you're describing on my end, and I haven't received reports of this issue before either. Can you please give me more details on what the issue is, where exactly it took place, and what you were doing? If possible, please attach a screenshot as well. Thank you!

Game Screenshot - Bug?

Unable to select dialogue options
Thanks for responding! I can pick my name/class, but as soon as I get to the first dialogue option, I can't click any of the options. The option will highlight, but when I click it nothing happens. I've tried clicking all the options, and nothing happened. Not sure if it's helpful, but included a screenshot from when I tried to play again today.

Hi! Thanks for the reply, and sorry again for the technical issues.

Is this your first time playing Emberfate, or did you play the old demo previously of Day 1-2?

Upon the first playthrough of this v0.2.1 build, a tutorial should be there at the start of the game. This is what it looks like on my end when I run the game, but that appears to be missing from your screenshot. Can you confirm whether you've played through the tutorial once before? Were the previous tutorial tips showing up before the first dialogue choice point?



If possible, please go into Settings and check if there's a Tutorial Hints setting that can be toggled on and off. It theoretically should not be in the Settings menu until you've played through the start of the game (i.e. finish the tutorial) once, but if it's there, please check to see if it's turned on or off.

Another thing you can do if to delete all persistent data and save files for Emberfate. Check in the following location:

  • Windows: %AppData\Roaming\RenPy\
  • Mac: $HOME/Library/RenPy/
  • Linux: $HOME/.renpy/

If you see any folders called EmberfateTempestofElements, whether it's

EmberfateTempestofElementsPublic-1631333206 or

EmberfateTempestofElementsDemo-1631333206, delete all the contents inside those Emberfate folders. 

Then delete all previous extracted game folders of the game, including past builds. And redownload and re-extract the game to a different folder again. 

If none of those work, if you have a Discord account, please consider joining our Discord server (https://discord.gg/S3pgGyv) and then sending me a PM. It'll be easier to troubleshoot and try to figure out what the issue is in a direct conversation. 


Apologies again for the strange bug. Thank you for your patience!

Deleting the files in the %AppData\Roaming\RenPy\ folder worked! Thank you! And it was my first time playing and the tutorial did pop up. I think it's just one of those random things, haha. Again, thank you so much! 

lmao as a person that has played many MMORPG, I can confirm this is true, especially the pain of raiding with a large team. Looking for more in the next update. <3

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LOL I definitely took inspiration from my own MMORPG experiences as well for this game's story arcs / drama, so I'm glad to hear they come off as realistic!

The newest episode for Day 4 content is out now if you want to continue reliving your MMORPG days! Thank you so much for playing Emberfate!

the amount of love and dedication that this CLEARLY has :') I'm so happy I found it <3 good luck with the development!! I'm looking forward for the next updates.

Take care 💖 

Thank you so much!!! I really do love this game and pour my heart into creating this, so I'm so happy to hear that it shows through the game.

The newest episode for Day 4 content is out now if you want to continue playing! Thank you for playing Emberfate!

AGGHH just finished day 3 and i must say it was sooo fun to play this!! can't wait for day 4!

Hahah thank you so much for playing Emberfate! I'm glad to hear you had fun playing it, though I'm sorry for making players wait between episodes. The newest episode for Day 4 content is out now, so I hope you'll enjoy it if you get the chance to play it!

This is amazing! Had a ton of fun, the only thing was I couldn't keep up with all the chats, but I guess that is what would be expected since this is supposed to be similar to if you were in an actual RPG game!

It just lost me when the whole Bard thing happened, but can't wait for the full game!

Thank you for playing Emberfate!

I'm sorry to hear the chats got overwhelming — I've had some similar comments before, so I'm trying to be mindful of it when writing future episodes so less parallel conversations happen at once.

You can also always pause the chats and ignore the other conversations to focus on only one at a time if that helps! There's no time limit on answering conversations, and they don't progress until you make a choice, so you can always take as much time as you need to go through each chat! 

I'm so sorry for the wait, but the full version should be out in 4 more months (one episode released a month)! Though Patreon would get early access and receive the final episode in November, if that's something that interests you~ Thank you again for your interest in Emberfate!

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Great idea and wonderful characters (and Chris' voice, oh my god...). Can't wait to see the full version!

Thank you so much! (I see we have yet another player who couldn't resist the charm of Chris' voice.... hahaha)

I'm so sorry for the wait, but the full version should be out in 4 more months (one episode released a month)! Though Patreon would get early access and receive the final episode in November, if that's something that interests you~

Thank you again for your interest in Emberfate!

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AAA this demo is great, I can't wait for the full game to come out

Thank you for playing the demo!! I'm glad to hear you liked it!

The newest episode (Day 3 content) is out now if you haven't tried that yet! There'll be a new episode released at the start of every month, so you don't have to wait as long as the full game's release if you want new content now!  :D

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Found this game by chance and immediately felt in love with the characters and the game as a whole. I'm looking forward for the full release , keep up the good work :).

Thank you so much!! <3 I'm so glad to hear that. I'll keep working hard to keep the new episodes coming~ :D

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I finished the demo in one day- holy cow I am in love with this I can't wait to see the finished game! the Love interest have all stole my heart I love there personality's and there voices suit them so much <3 the amount of nostalgia I get from this is awesome!! 

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Thank you so much for playing the demo! I'm glad to hear you liked it and that it was nostalgic for you too, haha. I'm likely going to try to do an episodic release for this game so that new content will be released every month or so, so you won't have to wait too long for more of Emberfate! ^^

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I have played this demo way too many times, I love it so much. There are so many little details that are incredible, such as the minimap updating, even during the starting raid! It's fun to create new characters to see the different icons for the different classes.

Thank you so much!! I'm so happy to hear you like the demo so much, and I'm always pleased when someone notices and appreciates the little details that I definitely spent way too much time on even though they weren't important LOL

I loved the demo so much, I can't wait for the full game!! omg the mmo realness hit so hard

Thank you for playing the demo!! I'm so glad you enjoyed it and the MMO simulation part was realistic LOL I'll be trying to do an episodic release for this game, which means new content will be released every month or so, so you won't have to wait too long for more of Emberfate! ^^

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The demo was great! Can't wait to play the full game

Thank you so much! I'll be trying to do an episodic release for this game, which means new content will be released every month or so, so you won't have to wait too long for more of Emberfate! ^^

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Got hooked with the promise of video-calls with LIs with cute pets, stayed for the intricate game mechanics and amazing character dynamics. Can't wait for the full release.

Hahah thank you so much for playing the demo! I'm super glad you got more than what you came for and stuff other than the LIs were interesting too!  I'll be trying to do an episodic release for this game, which means new content will be released every month or so, so you won't have to wait too long for more of Emberfate! ^^

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So, I just want to say how much I LOVE your game. I am absolutely in love, thank you so much for making it and I will be sitting here, waiting for future updates! 

I wish I could articulate my thoughts more but, I just want to tell you just how excited I am for this game, and how much I appreciate its existence and your efforts in making this game :)

I was hit with a wave of emotions as I played the demo last night.  I couldn't put it down and wanted to cry when the demo ended.

I have never had the experience of playing WoW and the seriousness that some people take raids but I have the experience of gaining friends through online games and feeling like they are my family.  A lot of my friends now are from online games I've played and I wouldn't trade them for the world. I feel like that's what this game is. I feel so nostalgic playing through it and feel so attached to the characters as if they were real. I really love the added elements of the voice calls and video calls because It really adds to the experience of what I believe you guys are trying to accomplish. The immersion is real.

Anyways, thank you so so much once more <3 I look forward to future updates!

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Ahhh thank you so much for taking the time to leave such a sweet comment! I'm really really happy to hear you liked Emberfate so much :D

Most of my closest friends are friends I've met online, and I have very fond memories of good friends from my old guilds / online games I've played, so I definitely relate there. I've tried to capture some of those found family vibes for the guild in this game, and I'm so happy that touched at least one person's heart.

The voice and video calls have been really fun to write, and I'm glad they add to the immersion! 

I'm hopefully going to be able to release new days of content for Emberfate in monthly episode, so I won't keep you waiting too long for future updates! ^^ I hope you'll enjoy the eventual new content as well!!

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Why can't I just buy it T-T? Need the full game! Urgently! 

Haha thank you so much for the anticipation for the full game! The enthusiasm is really nice to hear. I'll be trying to do an episodic release for this game so that new content will be released every month or so, so you won't have to wait too long for more of Emberfate! ^^

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The way that you captured what it's like to play an old school MMO AND be a guild leader is both amazing and triggering (in a good way).

This game is incredibly nostalgic. The grinding, the guild drama, the imagery, all of it takes me back to early online gaming. The social aspect of this is amazingly realistic and immersive (things like what happened to Chris really did happen quite often), I feel like I've gone back in time. It reminds me of why I don't join guilds or take leadership positions anymore!

The only thing that seemed strange to me were the the dialogues that referenced the "self-employed" background choice. When asked about college, the only choices I got were that you didn't go and you can be glad for it or regret it. Another choice, specifically about occupation, has you say you don't want to talk about it. One can be self-employed, still have gone to college, be very successful and enjoy what they do. College isn't just about finding a job, it's also about learning, networking and gaining skills if you go to a good one. Perhaps this changes if you choose to be a student in-game but I felt as though the dialogue kind of leans negatively towards being self-employed and college in general. I'm wondering if this is intentional or am I misunderstanding?

Either way, I'm going to devour this game when it's released.

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Thank you so much for playing the demo and leaving a comment! I'm really glad to hear the game is realistic and managed to replicate the feel of being in an MMORPG guild! I definitely made this game out of nostalgia for the good old MMORPG days I've had, so I'm really glad players have been finding this nostalgic too! 

The point you raised about the choices in relation to college and occupation -- I'm really sorry about that, that one is actually an oversight on my part for the branching. As someone who's both self-employed and went to college, I definitely don't regret my decisions and I don't mean to give a negative impression of it!

I'm going to try to give a quick explanation of what happened behind the scenes in my code where I messed up LOL I hope this isn't too confusing to understand since I'm really bad at explaining things concisely.

**SPOILERS ALERT FOR ANYONE WHO HASN'T PLAYED THE DEMO**

So the choices you referred to there are not specifically for the self-employed background, but basically what is shown for all players who chose any background that wasn't "college student" or "post-graduate student", because I only wrote two sets of possible choice options, one for the students, and one for non-students (and another response choice for the occupation discussion for those who chose unemployed background).

Then here is where I made the mistake for the first choice discussing college: I set it up in the script so that if the chosen work background is not college student or postgraduate student, then it would offer two special choices, where you can state you didn't go to college and either regret it or don't regret it. Otherwise (which means the chosen work background is either college student or postgraduate student), it'd offer the two student choices, which simply state whether you agree or disagree with Muse.

...And I completely forgot that that means non-students would not be able to see the generic agree/disagree choice and only get to state they didn't go to college... LOL Oops, that was uh a really bad oversight on my part in that logic branching. 

As for the occupation discussion, that one I admit was because I was rushing for the deadline and couldn't think of another choice option to offer to players who chose the employed or self-employed background where you can answer Khanyisa without mentioning your job (because then there's too many possible career options to offer, if I want to make sure players who are roleplaying or self-inserting wouldn't have their immersion broken suddenly by being forced into an option that they didn't want for their job background). So I was trying to keep it vague, and the only choice I could think of was just "I don't want to talk about it", but I didn't realize how that could come off as being negative or disliking your job. So again, that's an oversight on my part, and I'll go back and try to think of another choice option to offer that's more positive! 

Thank you for pointing these out, because I definitely did not realize my mistakes at all until now, and I'll work on fixing this soon! Again, I'm very sorry for this, and I hope it didn't detract from your experience too much to have the unfortunate combination of my mistakes come off as a negative portrayal of being self-employed.

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Thanks so much for breaking all that down for me!

And please don't worry, none of this took away from how amazing this game is and it's completely normal and expected to run into mistakes, placeholders and oversights during development. I had a feeling it was unintentional and made no assumptions. The only thing that took me out of the game was hitting the end of the demo!

It's really hard for me to leave comments asking for clarity, the last thing I want to do is come across as critical, hurtful or offensive as I understand so much time, effort and courage goes into creative works such as these. I'm incredibly grateful, honored and relieved that I could help you in some small way! As I said, I'm going to devour this game when it's released lol

Thanks again!

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I absolutely loved the demo. I was a bit worried about the mmorpg side, since I'm not a player and it looked a bit complicated, but the tutorial is very well-made and the hints really helped. I love that everyone in the guild has their own backstory, and now I grew attached and I can't wait to see what's coming next!

Thank you so much for playing and leaving a comment! I'm really glad that it wasn't too confusing to play even if you have no prior MMORPG experience -- I was a bit worried about that and didn't want it to alienate non-MMORPG players, so I'm relieved that the tutorial / hints helped! Happy to hear that you like the characters too! I'll try to keep you all updated on progress for this game with devlogs!

Just finished the game and im f... impressed!! Really felt like i was playing a mmorpg, wich i absolute love! Good characters so far, liked the dinamic between them. Last but not least, i already want Chris all to myself <3 Good joob guys!!

Thank you so much for playing and leaving a comment! I'm really glad you think it replicated the MMO feel well and you like the characters :) Chris has definitely been a fan favorite so far, much to my surprise! LOL Thank you again!

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just finished the demo oh my god i will hold hands With all Of Them

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i love lamp and their cricklecrackly mic

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Thank you so much for playing the demo and leaving a comment! I'm so glad you enjoy the characters LOL Lamp's terrible mic is one of my favorite parts of the game, so I'm glad you liked it too! (I promise the VA's mic is actually really good quality, I just butchered it with sound editing for this purpose xD)

Just finished playing the demo and damn: this game is so unique, I just love it! Can't wait for the next updates, you're doing great!

Thank you so much for playing and leaving a comment! I'm really glad to hear you enjoyed the demo! :D I'll try to keep you all updated on progress for this game with devlogs!

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This was incredible, have never even played an MMORPG before but I thoroughly enjoyed it. This is so well made!!   Reminded me of when I played Blooming Panic for the first time - I loved it

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Thank you so much for playing the demo and leaving a comment! I'm so glad to hear that the game was enjoyable even if you aren't an MMORPG player yourself -- and I hope the terminology and mechanics weren't too confusing! I'll work hard to make sure the full game is as fun and hopefully live up to your praise! Haha

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Just started playing this! Damn it's sooo goood!!! Really feels like playing an MMORPG, got me all nostalgic. I'm not sure if formats of other MMORPGs are similar to this one but I think this one's pretty close to the template and UI for Guild Wars 2? I've played that for a while. Correct me if I'm wrong, thanks! Time to continue playing! (^^

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Thank you so much for playing the demo and leaving a comment! I'm so glad to hear you enjoyed it. I hope it brought back some fond MMORPG memories for you too! Haha 

I think quite a few MMORPGs I know of share similar UI setups like this, actually ^^ This particular UI was also a royalty-free premade MMORPG UI kit that I purchased, which I then edited to fit my needs, so I suppose it might also be a bit generic in that regard, haha.

Thank you again, and I hope you enjoy the rest of the game! :D

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